Griefer Madness

Many peacekeepers will write an Abuse Report on a griefer, maybe throw a taunt or two in their direction, and nothing more. I enjoy talking to them when I can. It’s a chance to learn something.

I was in Sandbox Goguen and things were slow, so I rezzed a Tron light cycle and prepared to start riding it, when suddenly…

(Warning: crude language follows)

[2011-01-18 21:21:28]  Throbbing Copperfield has entered chat range.

I reported it on one of the peacekeeper channels.

[2011-01-18 21:22:13]  GreenLantern Excelsior: Okay, “Throbbing Copperfield” just rolled up beside me here in Goguen

So I decided to talk with him.

[2011-01-18 21:22:18]  Hal Jordan (greenlantern.excelsior): Throbbing Copperfield, LOL

He didn’t say anything, so I tried to jump on my light cycle and ride away. I could sit on it, but the animation didn’t seem to be working. So I edited it to determine the problem.

[2011-01-18 21:22:57]  Hal Jordan (greenlantern.excelsior): Oh that’s YOURS
[2011-01-18 21:22:59]  Hal Jordan (greenlantern.excelsior): Heh

I though he had rezzed his own copy, but he had just copybotted mine. He started rezzing small cubes on the ground and copying them.

[2011-01-18 21:24:26]  Throbbing Copperfield: CLICK THOSE BOXES.

I gave the peacekeepers a heads up.

[2011-01-18 21:24:30]  GreenLantern Excelsior: Throbbing Copperfield is rezzing cubes in SW Goguen
[2011-01-18 21:24:36]  GreenLantern Excelsior: Griefer looking avatar

[2011-01-18 21:24:43]  Throbbing Copperfield: COME OOON.
[2011-01-18 21:24:56]  Hal Jordan (greenlantern.excelsior): Now what could possibly go wrong?

He must have clicked the cubes (I didn’t). The small cubes began rapidly spawning large replicating cubes with the Green Lantern symbol on them. Other small cubes began rezzing Tron light cycles.

[2011-01-18 21:25:20]  GreenLantern Excelsior: Replicating cubes, Throbbing Copperfield

[2011-01-18 21:25:21]  Throbbing Copperfield: O GOD WAT
[2011-01-18 21:26:10]  Throbbing Copperfield: HOW COULD THIS HAVE HAPPENED

[2011-01-18 21:26:29]  GreenLantern Excelsior: AR submitted

[2011-01-18 21:26:41]  Hal Jordan (greenlantern.excelsior) raises hand
[2011-01-18 21:26:43]  Hal Jordan (greenlantern.excelsior): I know!
[2011-01-18 21:26:46]  Throbbing Copperfield: so, your bike seems to be everywhere.
[2011-01-18 21:26:53]  Throbbing Copperfield: along with your groops symbol.
[2011-01-18 21:27:21]  Throbbing Copperfield: stay still
[2011-01-18 21:27:22]  Throbbing Copperfield: snapshot time
[2011-01-18 21:28:01]  Throbbing Copperfield: lol nvm
[2011-01-18 21:28:02]  Throbbing Copperfield: pwnt
[2011-01-18 21:29:15]  Throbbing Copperfield shouts: Problem JLU?

After Abuse Reports were submitted, the griefer objects were removed.

[2011-01-18 21:43:32]  GreenLantern Excelsior: Cordova is clear
[2011-01-18 21:43:44]  GreenLantern Excelsior: Goguen is…offline?
[2011-01-18 21:44:10]  GreenLantern Excelsior: Yup, can’t enter

Anticipating a restart of Sandbox Cordova, I moved into Georgean and then to the Aerodrome at Abbotts.

[2011-01-18 21:44:34]  GreenLantern Excelsior: I’ll just tiptoe into Georgean
[2011-01-18 21:45:17]  GreenLantern Excelsior: Throbbing Copperfield no longer found in search

I was standing in Abbotts right clicking on the remaining ghosted cubes, when suddenly…

[2011-01-18 21:49:09]  Menstruating Mammoth has entered chat range.
[2011-01-18 21:49:35]  Menstruating Mammoth: Evening, Mr. GLE, as they call you.

[2011-01-18 21:49:52]  GreenLantern Excelsior: Okay, within 8 meters of me in Abbotts is “Menstruating Mammoth”

[2011-01-18 21:50:06]  Hal Jordan (greenlantern.excelsior): Well howdy there MM
[2011-01-18 21:50:10]  Menstruating Mammoth: Too busy to speak to the average pesron, I suppose?
[2011-01-18 21:50:13]  Menstruating Mammoth: Ah, there we go.
[2011-01-18 21:50:17]  Hal Jordan (greenlantern.excelsior): You look familiar
[2011-01-18 21:50:25]  Menstruating Mammoth: As do you.

[2011-01-18 21:50:27]  GreenLantern Excelsior: Same avatar exactly

[2011-01-18 21:50:31]  Menstruating Mammoth: ‘Tis a small world, it is.

[2011-01-18 21:50:36]  GreenLantern Excelsior: Green hands, US flag

[2011-01-18 21:50:45]  Menstruating Mammoth: Please, hold still.
[2011-01-18 21:50:52]  Menstruating Mammoth: I’d like a snapshot, if you don’t mind.
[2011-01-18 21:51:03]  Hal Jordan (greenlantern.excelsior): No problem, be sure to get my best side
[2011-01-18 21:51:17]  Menstruating Mammoth: The mightiest of all SL superheros, Mr. GLE.
[2011-01-18 21:51:33]  Hal Jordan (greenlantern.excelsior): Well…maybe the most persistent
[2011-01-18 21:51:48]  Hal Jordan (greenlantern.excelsior): It’s Tux, right?
[2011-01-18 21:52:02]  Menstruating Mammoth: Ah, of course not.
[2011-01-18 21:52:07]  Menstruating Mammoth: I’ve seen Tux around though.
[2011-01-18 21:52:16]  Menstruating Mammoth: I don’t have a big name, trust me.
[2011-01-18 21:52:19]  Menstruating Mammoth: I live account by account.
[2011-01-18 21:52:55]  Hal Jordan (greenlantern.excelsior): Interesting, then the Oracle and the crystal ball have failed
[2011-01-18 21:53:18]  Menstruating Mammoth: Yes, notice the greef when Tux is online.
[2011-01-18 21:53:21]  Menstruating Mammoth: Same as when she’s offline.
[2011-01-18 21:53:23]  Hal Jordan (greenlantern.excelsior): Maybe we should roll some chicken bones
[2011-01-18 21:53:28]  Menstruating Mammoth: Dual logging would get her b& in the first place.
[2011-01-18 21:53:45]  Menstruating Mammoth: I’ve been around once or twice, Mr. GLE.
[2011-01-18 21:53:52]  Hal Jordan (greenlantern.excelsior): So have I
[2011-01-18 21:53:55]  Menstruating Mammoth: I know how things work, don’t worry.
[2011-01-18 21:54:01]  Menstruating Mammoth: You and I both, perhaps.
[2011-01-18 21:54:12]  Hal Jordan (greenlantern.excelsior): Not our first rodeo, so to speak
[2011-01-18 21:54:26]  Menstruating Mammoth: Ah, not in the least bit.
[2011-01-18 21:54:34]  Menstruating Mammoth: I know you, you don’t know me.
[2011-01-18 21:54:53]  Menstruating Mammoth: You probably don’t wish to know me either, but I’m fine with this.
[2011-01-18 21:55:12]  Menstruating Mammoth: I would appreciate an article on your wiki though.
[2011-01-18 21:55:14]  Hal Jordan (greenlantern.excelsior): I’m fairly constant from year to year. And you’re not my enemy
[2011-01-18 21:55:26]  Menstruating Mammoth: I deserve some recognition, I’d say.
[2011-01-18 21:55:28]  Hal Jordan (greenlantern.excelsior): On the JLU wiki?
[2011-01-18 21:55:28]  Menstruating Mammoth: I feel so unwanted.
[2011-01-18 21:55:33]  Menstruating Mammoth: I’m kidding of course.
[2011-01-18 21:56:04]  Menstruating Mammoth: So, why do you choose to combat my actions?
[2011-01-18 21:56:26]  Menstruating Mammoth: Who are you doing any good?
[2011-01-18 21:56:47]  Hal Jordan (greenlantern.excelsior): For the same reason as all the volunteers here in the sandboxes oppose griefers.
[2011-01-18 21:57:15]  Menstruating Mammoth: I still fail to see any logic in any of your reasons.
[2011-01-18 21:57:38]  Menstruating Mammoth: It’s seems you’re all huge-ego’d, pretentious sandbox police
[2011-01-18 21:57:45]  Hal Jordan (greenlantern.excelsior): If someone wants to rez replicating cubes, they can rent a sim and go crazy.
[2011-01-18 21:57:56]  Menstruating Mammoth: who think they’re among the highest of all SL denizens.
[2011-01-18 21:57:57]  Hal Jordan (greenlantern.excelsior): This is not the replicating cube playground
[2011-01-18 21:58:18]  Menstruating Mammoth: I’m merely building, Mr. GLE.
[2011-01-18 21:58:26]  Menstruating Mammoth: Some builds get out of hand.
[2011-01-18 21:58:31]  Menstruating Mammoth: I’m sure you’ve seen that before.
[2011-01-18 21:58:56]  Hal Jordan (greenlantern.excelsior): Yes, the solution for some is that if they don’t like it they should find a sim without replicating cubes in it.
[2011-01-18 21:59:21]  Hal Jordan (greenlantern.excelsior): My response, and the response of most folks here, is “No, YOU move.”
[2011-01-18 21:59:21]  Menstruating Mammoth: How’s about I take out the replication scripts, then your theory is flawed.
[2011-01-18 21:59:41]  Menstruating Mammoth: Of course it won’t make a difference.
[2011-01-18 21:59:51]  Menstruating Mammoth: Nor will your balls pushing against my cubes.
[2011-01-18 22:00:03]  Hal Jordan (greenlantern.excelsior): WIthout the scripts, what would be the point?
[2011-01-18 22:00:20]  Menstruating Mammoth: They’d do the same damage, Mr. GLE.
[2011-01-18 22:00:40]  Hal Jordan (greenlantern.excelsior): Without scripts, the cubes wouldn’t move
[2011-01-18 22:00:53]  Menstruating Mammoth: I said the replication scripts
[2011-01-18 22:00:56]  Menstruating Mammoth: not all of them.
[2011-01-18 22:01:07]  Menstruating Mammoth: Now, if you’ll excuse me, I’ve some sandboxes that need greefing.
[2011-01-18 22:01:09]  Hal Jordan (greenlantern.excelsior): I misunderstood then
[2011-01-18 22:01:20]  Hal Jordan (greenlantern.excelsior): Any way I could talk you out of it?
[2011-01-18 22:01:33]  Menstruating Mammoth: Ah, I’d doubt it, but go ahead.
[2011-01-18 22:01:36]  Menstruating Mammoth: Try me.
[2011-01-18 22:01:55]  Menstruating Mammoth: Don’t use the O GOD U WILL B IP B&.
[2011-01-18 22:01:59]  Menstruating Mammoth: I’ve been.
[2011-01-18 22:02:03]  Menstruating Mammoth: Tons of times.
[2011-01-18 22:02:07]  Hal Jordan (greenlantern.excelsior): Well what if you took all the energy and time you spend griefing, and use it to build things and sell them? You could be wealthy.
[2011-01-18 22:02:21]  Menstruating Mammoth: Why would I do anything productive in this shithole?
[2011-01-18 22:02:41]  Menstruating Mammoth: I don’t want to make a living off of here.
[2011-01-18 22:02:55]  Menstruating Mammoth: I want to ruin other people’s chance at making money from here.
[2011-01-18 22:02:59]  Hal Jordan (greenlantern.excelsior): SL can be a fun place. It’s not necessarily a shithole.
[2011-01-18 22:03:07]  Menstruating Mammoth: Ah, but indeed it is.
[2011-01-18 22:03:20]  Menstruating Mammoth: Just knowing that there are people as naive as you and your fellow Goguenites
[2011-01-18 22:03:28]  Menstruating Mammoth: gives me all the reason to hate it.
[2011-01-18 22:04:02]  Menstruating Mammoth: Now, your persuasion has only convinced me to cut this conversation short.
[2011-01-18 22:04:03]  Hal Jordan (greenlantern.excelsior): I was just getting ready to ride my Tron light cycle when you showed up last time. It’s a lot of fun. You should try it.
[2011-01-18 22:04:11]  Menstruating Mammoth: Brb, greef.
[2011-01-18 22:04:17]  Menstruating Mammoth has left chat range.

[2011-01-18 22:04:32]  GreenLantern Excelsior: Menstruating Mammoth says he’s heading out to grief
[2011-01-18 22:05:26]  GreenLantern Excelsior: Looks like southern Goguen

After a short delay…

[2011-01-18 22:08:48]  GreenLantern Excelsior: GL cubes flying in Goguen and Cordova

[2011-01-18 22:09:42]  Menstruating Mammoth has entered chat range.

[2011-01-18 22:09:54]  GreenLantern Excelsior: Yup, took him about 5 minutes to set it up from the time I posted that he was going to do it.

[2011-01-18 22:10:07]  Menstruating Mammoth: It’s beautiful, no?
[2011-01-18 22:10:18]  Hal Jordan (greenlantern.excelsior): Lots of green there
[2011-01-18 22:10:40]  Hal Jordan (greenlantern.excelsior): But what have you really accomplished?
[2011-01-18 22:10:49]  Menstruating Mammoth: [22:09] Wally Mascot: hey fuckface?????
[22:10] Wally Mascot: hey dumdass
[2011-01-18 22:10:50]  Menstruating Mammoth: That.
[2011-01-18 22:11:05]  Menstruating Mammoth: Sorry, being spammed with autoreturn messages.
[2011-01-18 22:11:09]  Menstruating Mammoth: i’m missing alot of the chat.
[2011-01-18 22:11:12]  Hal Jordan (greenlantern.excelsior): He’s trying to build something and you’re making it difficult for him
[2011-01-18 22:11:21]  Menstruating Mammoth: Then my job is done.
[2011-01-18 22:11:31]  Menstruating Mammoth: That’s what I’ve accomplished.
[2011-01-18 22:11:41]  Menstruating Mammoth: you’re the superhero, I’m the bad guy.
[2011-01-18 22:11:46]  Menstruating Mammoth: That’s how these things work.
[2011-01-18 22:11:58]  Menstruating Mammoth: won’t be long now til I’m permab&.
[2011-01-18 22:11:58]  Bibblefrog goes BIBBLE at Menstruating Mammoth. (This was a nearby object that sent a message in local chat. It was hilarious at the time.)
[2011-01-18 22:12:00]  Menstruating Mammoth: Or so LL believes.
[2011-01-18 22:12:18]  Hal Jordan (greenlantern.excelsior): I suspect you will be back under some equally colorful name.
[2011-01-18 22:12:26]  Menstruating Mammoth: Yeah, I missed that.
[2011-01-18 22:12:28]  Menstruating Mammoth: So much chat spam.
[2011-01-18 22:12:39]  Hal Jordan (greenlantern.excelsior): I suspect you will be back under some equally colorful name.
[2011-01-18 22:12:48]  Menstruating Mammoth: Missed that as well.
[2011-01-18 22:12:51]  Hal Jordan (greenlantern.excelsior) shouts: I suspect you will be back under some equally colorful name.
[2011-01-18 22:13:04]  Menstruating Mammoth: Ah, maybe not tonight.
[2011-01-18 22:13:06]  Menstruating Mammoth: But I will be.
[2011-01-18 22:13:45]  Menstruating Mammoth: Well, seeing as I can’t see any of your text, it was nice chatting with you.
[2011-01-18 22:13:54]  Menstruating Mammoth: I’ll be off your hands soon enough.

I started an IM session with him.

[2011-01-18 22:14:20]  GreenLantern Excelsior: You will be gone soon enough but it’s too bad we can’t talk more
[2011-01-18 22:15:36]  Menstruating Mammoth: Ah, I’ll be back surely.
[2011-01-18 22:15:44]  Menstruating Mammoth: Don’t let your hopes down.
[2011-01-18 22:16:25]  GreenLantern Excelsior: It might be fun to chat about scripting and griefing some day
[2011-01-18 22:18:43]  Menstruating Mammoth: Yes, there’s plenty more where this came from.
[2011-01-18 22:18:48]  Menstruating Mammoth: I’m just a bit tired at the moment.
[2011-01-18 22:18:52]  Menstruating Mammoth: Easiest to toss together.
[2011-01-18 22:19:20]  GreenLantern Excelsior: People are impressed that you filled the sim so fast
[2011-01-18 22:19:34]  GreenLantern Excelsior: It’s interesting trying to devise countermeasures
[2011-01-18 22:19:37]  Menstruating Mammoth: I didn’t take out the self replicators like I said.
[2011-01-18 22:20:15]  Menstruating Mammoth: LL is slacking on the grey goo fence.
[2011-01-18 22:20:25]  GreenLantern Excelsior: I was about to ask about that
[2011-01-18 22:20:26]  Menstruating Mammoth: Might wanna give them a head’s up on that.
[2011-01-18 22:21:42]  GreenLantern Excelsior: I saw one a couple of days ago from “Cock Admiral” – filled the sim very quickly and it seemed that the gray goo limit would have shut him down
[2011-01-18 22:22:05]  Menstruating Mammoth: Cock Admiral
[2011-01-18 22:22:06]  Menstruating Mammoth: was I.
[2011-01-18 22:22:17]  Menstruating Mammoth: I’m everywhere, Mr. GLE.
[2011-01-18 22:22:25]  GreenLantern Excelsior: You are prolific
[2011-01-18 22:22:31]  Menstruating Mammoth: Almost every greefing lately was my doing.
[2011-01-18 22:22:38]  Menstruating Mammoth: Except those faggy seizure toruses.
[2011-01-18 22:22:41]  GreenLantern Excelsior: No kidding, wow
[2011-01-18 22:23:03]  GreenLantern Excelsior: I thought they were called tortured prims
[2011-01-18 22:23:16]  Menstruating Mammoth: Could be, but they suck.
[2011-01-18 22:23:26]  Menstruating Mammoth: That’s Nightmare Dench, or whatever.

When suddenly…

[2011-01-18 22:23:40]  Menstruating Mammoth has left chat range.

[2011-01-18 22:23:59]  GreenLantern Excelsior: Menstruating Mammoth just disappeared
[2011-01-18 22:24:22]  GreenLantern Excelsior: He’s not in search either

Although determining the reason for someone’s actions is not always simple, it looks like the motivations here (as discussed in the Griefers in Second Life post) could be Revenge and Victim Vulnerability. As usual, I wondered what would happen if griefers would become scripters and sell useful items. Some of these folks have so much talent, and to me it’s all wasted on replicating porno cubes.

Several years ago I discovered that a friend had been in Second Life as a griefer in the past. When I asked why he did it, he said “Because tears taste so delicious.” I wonder if there’s a way to get sandbox residents to suffer in silence.

Here’s a snapshot of the conversation with Mr. Mammoth, taken by one of my peacekeeper friends.

MM and GLE

MM and GLE - January 19, 2011


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